Question:
Film cameras: Canon AE-1 or Minolta X-700?
Jennifer
2017-09-06 15:04:27 UTC
Hi! I was thinking about starting film photography, and heard the Canon AE-1 and Minolta X-700 are very good, but I don't know which one to get. Please answer with your suggestions and experiences. Or if you don't recommend any of those, please recommend any other used film cameras under around $60, but preferably lower. Thank you!!
Six answers:
Fauxtonic
2017-09-06 20:58:40 UTC
Both are/were good cameras with the AE-1 being the more popular of the two and is considered by many to be somewhat of an iconic body.



Both were very reliable, with the Canon being the most reliable of the two.



Both use lenses that have not been manufactured for more than 20 years. So which ever one you buy, realize that you'll be buying into a completely obsolete system because both of these brands changed their lens mount in the mid 80s when they switched from manual focus to auto focusing SLRs. Two brands that didn't change mounts were Pentax and Nikon.



Choosing either one will be fine as neither provide any specific feature(s) that will increase image quality. Remember with an SLR, there is literally nothing but air between the rear element of the lens and the surface of the film. The body is nothing more than a box that hold the film and cannot have any affect on image quality. With said, the differences in SLR bodies is the level of control that each one offers over the image-making process. For example: The AE-1 can accept an auto advance drive which will advance the film 1fps. The X-700 can accept a motordrive which often allows frame rates of around 5fps. The Canon A1, which is superior to either the AE-1 or X-700, also accepted a motordrive producing 5fps. The last in the line of Canon's manual focusing SLRs was the legendary T-90. This body was designed by Porsche and was a precursor to the EOS system. IMHO, the T-90 was the best and most advanced manual-focusing SLR ever made. It was one of the first SLRs to have a motordrive built into the body. Disclaimer: I used to own one back in the late 80s. I eventually sold it used for more than what I had paid for it new which should tell you a lot about the quality of the camera.



If you want a manually focusing SLR and would like to be able to use those lenses on a modern DSLR, then look at either Pentax or Nikon. Pentax's K-1000, ME, ME-Super and their professional LX are all great choices, especially if you want a small form factor. Nikon's FE, FE2, FM, FM2, F3 are also all great choices. Stay away from the Nikon EM which was full auto only and is considered one of the worst SLRs Nikon has ever made, with the possible exception of the N4004.



If you do with an auto-focusing SLR, then you'll be able to use those lenses on any modern SLR. Any of the Canon EOS SLRs are great especially the A2, EOS-3 and EOS-1. Nikons are all good (except for the N4004) especially the N90, N90s, N6006, N8008s, and F100.



I wouldn't bother with any of the AF cameras from Pentax, not when the bodies from Canon or Nikon were so much better.



I would also avoid any of the Minolta Maxxum cameras as they had design flaws making them the least reliable camera on the market at the time.
anonymous
2017-09-13 21:28:13 UTC
I can understand the desire to go back to film (I'm often tempted to get out my old film Nikons, too) but when you start looking at old reliable film cameras, you must consider the lens availability and variety available lenses... can you still find them in good working conditions at affordable prices or are they totally obsolete? Are they even still available, after all, what's a camera without a lens?



To be honest, you'd do well to get a good Nikon N80, N90 or the F100, referred to back in its heyday as "the brick," because of how solidly that beauty was built ("like a Sherman tank," another often spoken reference many used in describing it), and you'll never want to part with it, either. Of course, you can also get a Pentax K1000 (the full metal body), known as the no-nonsense workhorse most popular go-to camera among beginners and aficionados up to just before 1997.
Vinegar Taster
2017-09-07 14:25:19 UTC
Nikon N2000 . The first 35mm to have a builtin motor drive .
Steve P
2017-09-07 05:18:34 UTC
Good answers from everyone. I will add that I have an X-700, bought it new in 1982 and it still looks and per forms beautifully. I will admit that it could use some new seals, but nothing so far is harming image quality. I have the motor drive with it, which along with making the camera immensely faster and easier to use, it also makes it fit your hand like a glove. I also have the dedicated 280 PX flash. These Minoltas were, if I'm not mistaken, the first cameras to utilize through the lens metering with the flash, and it also works perfectly. There are plenty of lenses available for these cameras, and even a really good body is very low price. Shop KEH for your needs.
frombrum
2017-09-06 16:16:33 UTC
canon eos 30

good lens selection

easy to use

pick them up on ebay for under $100
Murzy
2017-09-06 15:53:17 UTC
Canon AE-1


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